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PostSubject: Penis Race Size Debate!   Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:37 pm

Penis size myths and legends

"Many cultures have a persistent urban legend that the penis size of
some minority groups is larger than the norm. In the United States,
the minority group chosen is African-American. This appears not to be
supported by anything other than anecdote. Fanon covers this subject
in some detail in "Black Skin, White Masks", and tends to agree that
this is a myth -- a conclusion that he backs up with statistics. On
the other hand, Philippe Rushton has published statistics claiming
otherwise (Race, Evolution, and Behavior: A Life History Perspective,

The only reliable penis-size studies commonly quoted in the literature
are the Kinsey study, the UCSF study, and an Italian study, none of
which even attempted to correlate size with race. There is an ongoing
government study in India, as well, commissioned with the goal of
helping reduce the high condom failure rate there. This study is not
likely to answer the question either. There have been many other
studies with claims of varying rigor - for example, the LifeStyles
condoms study -- but they are generally flawed by selection bias."



Largest Penis by Race

"It is generally said that the penis of the Negro is very large," so
wrote German anthropologist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach in 1795. "And
this assertion is so far borne out by the remarkable genitory
apparatus of an Ethiopian which I have in my anatomical collection."
Louis Jacolliet, a 19th century French writer who spent three decades
investigating penis size, had this to say: "In no branch of the human
race are the male organs more developed than in the African Negro."
Certainly, the belief in the well-endowment of the African race has an
extensive history. But is it justified by the facts?

Going strictly by the Kinsey data, which still remains one of the most
exhaustive studies on penis size to date, the average white male has a
penis measuring 6.2 inches long and 3.7 inches around, whereas the
average black male has a penis 6.3 by 3.8 inches, for a difference of
0.1 inches--not what you'd call statistically significant. When it
came to flaccid length, however, blacks fared a little better: 4.3
inches long, versus 4.0 inches for white males. So it may be,
therefore, that while those of African heritage appear larger
initially, under actual working conditions things tend to even out.
You should consider this a tentative hypothesis rather than a
scientific fact, as there were only 59 black respondents to the
survey, versus 2,500 for whites."


Library of Excerpts Sexual Organs and Heterochronic Theory

***Note*** (studies included female genital/breast sizes - which I
have edited out of the article.)

"Thus, the human penis shows high species-specificity as an elaborated
genital structure. Penis size also varies moderately across
populations, being largest among African populations, smaller among
European populations, and smallest among East Asian populations, but
with substantial overlap (Rushton, 1987, 1988b, 1989b). Penises are
highly age-specific, attaining their full resting size only after
puberty, and are highly courtship-specific, attaining their full erect
size only under sexually arousing conditions. Thus, penises show all
the hallmarks of a morphological trait elaborated somehow through
sexual selection." (Miller, Geoffrey F. (1994)"


"The ethnographic record {e.g., A French Army Surgeon (1898/1972), a
30-year specialist in genitourinary diseases} makes reference to
numerous anatomical distinctions which show a similar pattern of
whites being between blacks and Orientals."


"We averaged the ethnographic data on erect penis and found the means
to approximate: Orientals, 4 to 5.5 in. in length and 1.25 in. in
diameter; Caucasions, 5.5 to 6 in. in length and 1.5 in. in diameter;
blacks, 6.25 to 8 in. in length and 2 in. in diameter."


"Arab men, who were often mixed with black, had larger penises than
Europeans. Recent data show similar patterns. Measurements taken from
living subjects as well as those at autopsy, show the size of testes
is twofold lower in Asian men than Europeans (9 g vs 21 g), a
difference too large to be accounted for entirely in terms of body
size (Diamond, 1986; Short, 1984)."


(Rushton, J.P. & Bogaert, A.F. (1987) Race differences in sexual
behavior: Testing an evolutionary hypothesis. Journal Research in
Personality 21(4): pp. 536-7)


New Urban Male
The Straits Times dated 16thJuly 2000 (Singapore) reported::
Flaccid (cm) Erect (cm)
circumference length circumference length
Chinese 8.3 8.0 11.1 8.6 -
(range) 6.5 - 10.5 4 - 11 9 - 13.8
8.4 12.4
Indian 8.8 6 - 11.5 9.5
(range) 8 - 10.5 9.3 - 13
12.5 -14.5
Malay 8.6 4.5 - 11.4 12.4
(range) 7 - 10.3 10 - 13.5 8.5 - 16
Western 8.85
men 9.71 5 - 12.3 12.9
(range) 6.5 - 13 15.5 9 -16 7.5 -19

this was taken from a 1996 survey by Hunter Welles,
Tom Lue and McAnich


\doc\95\05\drtang.txt From: Charles Randles
According to Chinese sources published in Taiwan the average length
for a Chinese male is between 11(4.4") and 12(4.7") centimeters for
an erect penis. Most sources seem to agree. Japanese sources (read
in Chinese) state the average length of an erect Japanese penis is

\priv\95\03\penmyth.txt - yolk magazine workshop believes the size
issue is a "myth"
- 1995 Yolk magazine has an article "The Asian Penis"

\doc\94\19\penmeas.txt - how to measure size correctly

\priv\94\19\ROSENIQ.txt In The Bell Curve, Murray and Herrnstein
also introduce readers to the work of J. Phillipe Rushton, a Canadian
psychologist. Rushton has argued that Asians are more intelligent than
Caucasians, have larger brains for their body size, smaller penises,
lower sex drive, are less fertile, work harder and are more readily
socialized; and Caucasians have the same relationship to blacks.

Arthur Hu's Penis Size Survey
Nov 29, 1994
Comparison of results: Length of erect penis in inches
Rushton Hu Wizz Cosmo
Asian White Black Intern Asian White Intern Atlas
Responses #N/A #N/A #N/A 13 16 119 #N/A
Min (Inches) 4.0 5.5 6.3 Min 4.0 5.0 4.5 4.7
Max 5.5 6.0 8.0 Max 7.3 9.5 10.5 7.0
Mean 4.8 5.8 7.1 Mean 5.6 6.9 6.5 6.0
Standard Dev #N/A #N/A #N/A StdDev 1.0 1.1 1.03 #N/A
Difference -1.0 0.0 1.4 Wh-As -1.2 0.0
Wh-As / Std Dev #N/A 1.2

Item Asian White Ratio Remarks
responses 13 16
penis size, inc 5.6 6.9 1.22 Asian smaller by 1 std dev
weight, lb 163 173 1.06 Weight about same
height, in 69.5 86.9 1.25 Shorter by .25SD
circumcised 42.9% 50.0% 1.17 Both about half
vegetarian 0.0% 4.2% 0.00 Almost no vegans, despite education
iq 138 147 1.07 Not enough to really count
sat combined 1304 1396 1.07 SAT nearly same

Note - I lost my notes, but the only two blacks who responded were
much larger than the range for whites or Asians.

DOC922\PSIZE.TXT penis size survey
Cosmopolitan April 92 p. 104 Atlas of Human Sex Anatomy
Internet poll by (The Wizzard)

Min Avg Max Vs Internet Poll
Soft 3.3" 3.7" 4.1" 0.5" 3.5" 5.8"
Erect 4.7" 6.0" 7.0" 4.5" 6.5" 10.5"
Circumf 2.3" 4.7" 2.0" 5.0" 8.7"
Erection adds about 30% to length

Average weight for Internet poll - 70" tall 161 lbs

Kinsey says that 24% are average
5% are less than 3.5
1% are larger than 9

From alt-sex-faq 1 Jul 1992:
c3-14. What's the average length and width penis?

Source: "Race Differences in Behaviour: A Review and Evolutionary
by J. Philippe Rushton, Dept. of Psychology, University of
Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 5C2
in "Journal of Personality and Individual Differences"
Vol. 9, No. 6, 1009-1024, 1988.
519-679-2111 661-3685

According to a paper by J. Philippe Rushton, the average size for erect
penises is:

Group Length Diameter
Orientals 4 - 5.5" 1.25"
Caucasians 5.5 - 6" 1.3 - 1.6"
Blacks 6.25 - 8" 2" - 4.5"


Sex Project - sex, love, and relationships

Myths concerning males

Black men have naturally larger penises than white men.

"This couldn't be further from the truth. Based on a number of surveys
(most notably Masters and Johnson), of thousands of men of many
different races, white males actually have the largest penises. White
males averaged an erect penis length of 6.4" while black males
averaged 6.2". Hispanic men averaged 6.0" and finally east Asian men
bring up the rear with a meager 5.6"


"Erect penis lengths are taken by measuring from the TOP of the penis,
where it joins the body, to the tip of the head."


I located an article stating scientific studies... however, due to the
photo content on the pages I am not posting the site link.

"Thus, the human penis shows high species-specificity as an elaborated
genital structure. Penis size also varies moderately across
populations, being largest among African populations, smaller among
European populations, and smallest among East Asian populations, but
with substantial overlap (Miller, Geoffrey F. (1994) Evolution of the
human brain through runaway sexual selection: the mind as a protean
courtship device. pp. 185)
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